Obvious Labour leadership wants me out, Diane Abbott tells BBC

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MP Diane Abbott has said it "is obvious this Labour leadership wants me out" after the party suspended her for a second time over comments she made about racism.

Labour has launched an investigation into Abbott's defence of a 2023 letter to a newspaper in which she said people of colour experienced racism "all their lives", which was different from the "prejudice" experienced by Jewish people, Irish people and Travellers.

She apologised for those remarks at the time following criticism from Jewish and Traveller groups and was readmitted to the party after a lengthy suspension.

Asked by the BBC's James Naughtie if she looked back on the whole incident with regret, she said: "No, not at all."

In a brief statement issued to BBC Newsnight, Abbott said: "My comments in the interview with James Naughtie were factually correct, as any fair-minded person would accept."

In her interview with Naughtie, which was recorded in May, she said: "Clearly, there must be a difference between racism which is about colour and other types of racism, because you can see a Traveller or a Jewish person walking down the street, you don't know.

"You don't know unless you stop to speak to them or you're in a meeting with them.

"But if you see a black person walking down the street, you see straight away that they're black. They are different types of racism."

She added: "I just think that it's silly to try and claim that racism which is about skin colour is the same as other types of racism."

Abbott posted a clip online of her BBC interview after news of her suspension emerged, writing only: "This is the clip of my interview."

The latest suspension means the Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP will sit as an independent MP, known as losing the whip, pending an investigation into her remarks.

Labour said it would not be commenting "while this investigation is ongoing".

Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner told the Guardian newspaper: "There's no place for antisemitism in the Labour Party, and obviously the Labour Party has processes for that.

"Diane had reflected on how she'd put that article together, and said that 'was not supposed to be the version', and now to double down and say 'Well, actually I didn't mean that. I actually meant what I originally said', I think is a real challenge."

Former Labour shadow chancellor John McDonnell posted on X to defend his colleague.

He said: "Before people, including Labour Party spokespersons, comment or decide upon Diane Abbott's fate, could I suggest that they actually listen to Diane's interview on BBC Reflections in which she forthrightly condemns antisemitism & discusses the different forms of racism."

In her BBC interview, Abbott was asked if she would condemn antisemitic behaviour in the same way she would racist behaviour against someone because of the colour of their skin.

She replied: "Well of course, and I do get a bit weary of people trying to pin the antisemitic label on me because I've spent a lifetime fighting racism of all kinds and in particular fighting antisemitism, partly because of the nature of my constituency."

The Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP is the longest-serving female MP in the Commons, having entered Parliament in 1987.

She said she was "grateful" to be a Labour MP in the BBC interview, but that she was sure the party leadership had been "trying to get me out".

Listen to James Naughtie's interview with Diane Abbott on BBC Sounds.